I'm starting to see some consistently good stuff coming from the newer models. Are ppl still mad about this or are they experimenting with actually trying to make cool animations. The main issue I see from non- artistic ppl is that they may make something with AI but they lack the consistent artistic eye that many old school artists have for composition. Since the newer models have these new specific composition capabilities I would think that theres now a level of intentionality thats possible versus whatever random slop it generates. You can specify even simple things like character, background and consistency is now baked in.
Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now?
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At 11/21/25 07:11 PM, Kel-chan wrote:I'm starting to see some consistently good stuff coming from the newer models. Are ppl still mad about this or are they experimenting with actually trying to make cool animations. The main issue I see from non- artistic ppl is that they may make something with AI but they lack the consistent artistic eye that many old school artists have for composition. Since the newer models have these new specific composition capabilities I would think that theres now a level of intentionality thats possible versus whatever random slop it generates. You can specify even simple things like character, background and consistency is now baked in.
The only people that are, are children and stupid techbros. And yes we are mad for many valid reasons with the theft, horrible effects on the environment and just how horrible it all is. Please do not imply you can do good with Gen AI, the bad heavily outweighs the good. There's a reason this site banned it. You aren't "making" anything you're telling a machine to commit theft and output slop.
For producing passable corporate crap at lightning speed? Absolutely. However, the enormous community of artists that enjoy the very process of creating something of their own from scratch is alive and well. Let's take a look at some analogies. Did digital art kill traditional art? No. Did plugin emulations kill hardware outboard gear? No. But here's the thing, the aforementioned tech advancements were not even a tiny bit as harmful as GenAI. Right now it's shoved everywhere and because it's a novelty that's trending and the hype itself makes money. But that won't last, I hope. Thanks to websites like Cara or NG, we're safe. The reason AI-free spaces even exist and are as big as they are, is simple. People who truly love creating fully original creations, care about it enough. And those spaces are growing.
To sorta answer your question, I think that using AI-assistance as minor tools in an essentially manual creation is the lesser evil compared to generating entire productions with it. And that has its place in the mainstream advertising business. So I hope this counter-trend will continue and companies will push that instead of another "pReSs hErE tO mAkE aN Ai MaSteRpiEcE" scam.
At 11/21/25 07:11 PM, Kel-chan wrote:I'm starting to see some consistently good stuff coming from the newer models. Are ppl still mad about this or are they experimenting with actually trying to make cool animations. The main issue I see from non- artistic ppl is that they may make something with AI but they lack the consistent artistic eye that many old school artists have for composition. Since the newer models have these new specific composition capabilities I would think that theres now a level of intentionality thats possible versus whatever random slop it generates. You can specify even simple things like character, background and consistency is now baked in.
No it'll never create what I have in mind in my head. And I'm not getting a chip implant for it to do that. It is such a waste of resources. They could've been developing the machine for cool or truly useful shit that would in theory give humans more free time for other things such as art or whatever. No cool robots, no cool cyberpunk tech, no real steel and no skynet. Instead all those resources are just being used for sloppa to be generated on some screens or monitors.
this might be the end of my career here and I might get burned at the stake... anyway
I love coming up with cool ideas but I'm terrible at completely fleshing them out... most of the time I just get other people and friends to help me with basic ideas and lore.... but... sometimes... for the big ideas... I go to chat gpt and uhhhhh put it in and... uhhhhhhhh yeah, it does help... a lot... because I can come up with the main cool idea and then I just ask "hey filthy clanker... give me 5 more versions of this and keep fleshing it out"
and LOOK. OK, IN MY DEFENSE I would NEVER use it for anything other than aiding my creative process. some OCs may have stuff that chat gpt helped with but everything else is all me
I hate that AI is slowly taking over everything, but in the words of my friend... "AI is here whether you like it or not... might as well use it" so... yeah, I guess I might as well use it
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At 11/22/25 09:03 PM, RedWonder8 wrote:
I hate that AI is slowly taking over everything, but in the words of my friend... "AI is here whether you like it or not... might as well use it" so... yeah, I guess I might as well use it
Exactly! that's why i use fentanyl.
At 11/23/25 09:31 PM, EyeSores wrote:At 11/22/25 09:03 PM, RedWonder8 wrote:I hate that AI is slowly taking over everything, but in the words of my friend... "AI is here whether you like it or not... might as well use it" so... yeah, I guess I might as well use it
Exactly! that's why i use fentanyl.
on a serious note, i dont hate you if you use AI. I think there are legitimate use cases. but i enjoy making things with my own slimy tentacles, so i dont use any form of gen AI.
even for coding i dont really use it any more, because it really sucks the fun out of it for me, because coding goes from a fun kind of logic puzzle to spending the rest of the night trying to duck tape garbage code into my project.
At 11/23/25 09:38 PM, EyeSores wrote:At 11/23/25 09:31 PM, EyeSores wrote:At 11/22/25 09:03 PM, RedWonder8 wrote:I hate that AI is slowly taking over everything, but in the words of my friend... "AI is here whether you like it or not... might as well use it" so... yeah, I guess I might as well use it
Exactly! that's why i use fentanyl.
on a serious note, i dont hate you if you use AI. I think there are legitimate use cases. but i enjoy making things with my own slimy tentacles, so i dont use any form of gen AI.
even for coding i dont really use it any more, because it really sucks the fun out of it for me, because coding goes from a fun kind of logic puzzle to spending the rest of the night trying to duck tape garbage code into my project.
My main gripe with it is the AI fad with big businesses just like with crypto is causing them to buy up all the computer parts such GPU's, CPU's and etc to feed into this AI development. This in turn is one of the reasons why pc parts are skyrocketing in price in an already shitty economy. Just like how companies were and still are buying up a shit load of GPU's for mass cryptocurrency mining. Rather convenient too for those big companies that are also trying to push cloud service for everything too...
Oh pc parts gotten too expensive? That's okay! Cause over here at Microsoft we can allow you game, get work done and etc on any device through a cloud subscription service!
Well I like to make my funny drawings, why would I let my computer get the pleasure of that?
Yeah it takes a while and is stressful in places, but there isn't much on this Earth that can beat the feeling of finishing the thing you've been working on for months and just getting to step back and go "wow, this is kinda shit but I made it with my own two hands!"
Also slightly unrelated but my entire mental health is sustained around if I've worked on a video game recently cause it's my holy grail of special interests, so if I just waste my energy trying to get gen AI to do any of the process for me (such as animation) then I'm not gonna get that hit of the game dev drug to soothe my autism; and now I have a headache cause I would be arguing with ChatGPT for 2 hours after it didn't make the walls have the right kind of fancy deep symbolism.
Oh pc parts gotten too expensive? That's okay! Cause over here at Microsoft we can allow you game, get work done and etc on any device through a cloud subscription service!
I want to kick Microsoft in it's non existent groin I hate that company.
Also fun fact, NVIDIA is the richest company on Earth (according to some random website I saw for 2025) cause they use their fancy graphics processors that gamers worship for all these AI training stuff. Last year they were at no 3 I swear...
At 11/25/25 12:58 PM, RosieUV wrote:Oh pc parts gotten too expensive? That's okay! Cause over here at Microsoft we can allow you game, get work done and etc on any device through a cloud subscription service!
I want to kick Microsoft in it's non existent groin I hate that company.
Also fun fact, NVIDIA is the richest company on Earth (according to some random website I saw for 2025) cause they use their fancy graphics processors that gamers worship for all these AI training stuff. Last year they were at no 3 I swear...
Nvidia has been making huge bank off of productivity (so things like 3D rendering and the likes especially for CGI stuff, physics simulations, and more) and conveniently are strong enough for gamers without introducing those kinds of features so they've kind of been uncontested because no one really wants to compete. You'll have others who can do other things or try other things like that .. but everyone is fighting for 3rd place (if that makes sense) instead of trying to compete.
Nowadays with the big rush towards AI, Nvidia is trying to jump on it but there are other companies who are trying to jump onboard with AI-focused cards that definitely won't be useful for gaming or anything .. but it'll probably be a huge dent for Nvidia if it turns out people who only want AI are going after it (such as businesses).
Since it's a huge bubble for people who are treating it like a whole get-rich scheme, it's only a matter of time before it all pops and we'll have to see if Nvidia still sticks to their guns and still wants to push AI since they're technically the only ones in the game at least in the GPU market.
No. And if you are that means you are too lazy to actually get good at animation and can't make anything when the robot is taken away from you. You aren't an animator. There is no "ask a friend" option or shortcut for getting good at animation.
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I get it; morbid curiosity and all; but at the same time I wonder: are you only asking this for attention? What new can be said that hasn't already been said about ai?
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Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 01:38:14 (edited 2025-11-26 01:38:24)
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No, only people with shrimp sized wieners use AI in their works.
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At 11/26/25 04:28 AM, Dasam0 wrote:No, only people with shrimp sized wieners use AI in their works.
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Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 11:38:04 (edited 2025-11-26 11:38:15)
At 11/21/25 07:11 PM, Kel-chan wrote:I'm starting to see some consistently good stuff coming from the newer models. Are ppl still mad about this or are they experimenting with actually trying to make cool animations. The main issue I see from non- artistic ppl is that they may make something with AI but they lack the consistent artistic eye that many old school artists have for composition. Since the newer models have these new specific composition capabilities I would think that theres now a level of intentionality thats possible versus whatever random slop it generates. You can specify even simple things like character, background and consistency is now baked in.
No, because I do not want to cause fear amongst the art community.
I don’t care if it makes the best-looking thing on the planet. I’m fundamentally against it on principle. It has literally zero talent of its own, it only functions because of its ability to rip off artists. It literally cannot be art because no human soul was involved with making a unique creative vision. Merely a bastardized regurgitation of thousands of people’s livelihoods and skillsets stolen from years’ work acting as though it’s new and the biggest lie. Your “prompt” has more artistry.
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At 11/21/25 07:11 PM, Kel-chan wrote:I'm starting to see some consistently good stuff coming from the newer models. Are ppl still mad about this or are they experimenting with actually trying to make cool animations. The main issue I see from non- artistic ppl is that they may make something with AI but they lack the consistent artistic eye that many old school artists have for composition. Since the newer models have these new specific composition capabilities I would think that theres now a level of intentionality thats possible versus whatever random slop it generates. You can specify even simple things like character, background and consistency is now baked in.
Not that I can tell, there still is no AI success story half a decade in, surely another 5 years of "just wait a year and see what it's capable of then" will suffice...
Gen AI is theft. Art is human expression through through human effort. Not recycled IP infringement from unskilled idiots. I have not seen a lot of AI work on newgrounds because thankfully most of the community is smart enough to know its "means-of-production". any submission that has obvious gen ai in it is usually mocked and zero-starred into oblivion. i hope it stays that way.
At 11/26/25 06:43 PM, ChrisMckiernan wrote:Gen AI is theft. Art is human expression through through human effort. Not recycled IP infringement from unskilled idiots. I have not seen a lot of AI work on newgrounds because thankfully most of the community is smart enough to know its "means-of-production". any submission that has obvious gen ai in it is usually mocked and zero-starred into oblivion. i hope it stays that way.
As you can see in the title, this thread is about asking people if they using AI in their workflow
There's a separate AI discourse thread here.
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Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 21:20:57 (edited 2025-11-26 21:21:59)
For me, no. I'm sure there are reasonable uses for AI in non artistic fields or whatever, but I already feel like too many people are overly reliant on technology and the various algorithms to do the basic tasks and thinking for them.
Up until this point the only time I've used AI in some form is in the NG chat where you can have brenbot whip something up (a pic or a poem or something). Only done it a handful of times.
Also, the AI vids Oney has done have been pretty entertaining, however I can't personally see the point in using AI as a 'buddy'. Kind of worries me people are turning to AI as a substitute for actual companionship.
Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 21:29:22 (edited 2025-11-26 21:48:54)
At 11/26/25 09:00 PM, CrimsonKero wrote:At 11/26/25 06:43 PM, ChrisMckiernan wrote:Gen AI is theft. Art is human expression through through human effort. Not recycled IP infringement from unskilled idiots. I have not seen a lot of AI work on newgrounds because thankfully most of the community is smart enough to know its "means-of-production". any submission that has obvious gen ai in it is usually mocked and zero-starred into oblivion. i hope it stays that way.
As you can see in the title, this thread is about asking people if they using AI in their workflow
There's a separate AI discourse thread here.
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1551943
Nobody uses ai in their workflows. if they do, they do not deserve to be on newgrounds. This is common knowledge and their should not be a debate about it. If use gen ai in any stage.....you are an unskilled loser. Artists don't steal and sacrifice the creative process. We want skills, not stolen poorly-made shortcuts.
Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 22:33:17 (edited 2025-11-26 22:54:17)
So... this is the thing. I've been drawing for about 16 years and for 13 of those years I took a lot of the art courses I did seriously while I've been going to college and art school. This was before generative Ai took off.
I shouldn't have to state that for those who do know me but for the sake of context I'm confident enough in my own skill to know what I'm doing without having to turn to Ai in that respect.
With that said, I've taken inspiration from what other people are doing with Ai, one example I can point to is actually in my adult work:
But I'm not going to bother using it myself in my workflow because there's really no need for me to. Why would I need to if I know exactly how to draw a human body with some level of intent?
The need for me is not there. In fact I would say that it's impractical.
I might be an intermediate artist in-between hobbyist and professional but I think in concern with the nuance of this particular discussion I think that should give anyone an idea on why my stance is to keep drawing, in spite of the fact that Ai is here to stay.
That stated, this is where I think people need to start encouraging people to actually draw on their own merit, recommend credible resources like Proko, Ethan Becker, Andrew Loomis, etc. and not get on this whole thing with shaming and harassing people just for using Ai because it's to a point where a lot of the people claiming to be against it who do it to that extreme are no better than the Ai-Tech Bros who simp over it.
That's also why I've been more keen to show my process and do live streams of myself drawing because I think that it can at least inspire people to learn the skills.
At 11/26/25 09:20 PM, DeaghlanNG wrote:For me, no. I'm sure there are reasonable uses for AI in non artistic fields or whatever, but I already feel like too many people are overly reliant on technology and the various algorithms to do the basic tasks and thinking for them.
Up until this point the only time I've used AI in some form is in the NG chat where you can have brenbot whip something up (a pic or a poem or something). Only done it a handful of times.
This is something that I think needs to be touched on because I feel like a lot of the people here who keep claiming that it's an absolute that Ai is totally banned and the use of it is prohibited on Newgrounds is exaggerated.
- Yes, if Ai is the only tool you are using to create a piece then it is not allowed in Animation or Art. Partial use could be considered acceptable depending on how much of it you used in said pieces in that case, but it must be disclosed.
- In Audio it's just banned without question.
- If you're posting it on the BBS, blog or in NG Chat using brenbot then it's fine in that case because it's a lot easier to discern when someone isn't trying to pass it off as their own work.
Newgrounds is aware that it's an evolving field and, if it gets to a certain point I wouldn't be surprised if a decision was made to ban it all together but I'm only going to assume that's going to happen when the Ai Bubble inevitably pops.
That leads me to one last point.
I'm not necessarily as concerned with the Ai trend because it's going to pass. I've been paying enough attention to the news to know that corporations are realizing that Ai can't do everything a human can do and that's where people need to start understanding that in business:
- If something isn't practical then in the long run companies are going to be hesitant to turn to it or outright reject it.
- If everything looks the same as a result of the tools that are being used, then people will eventually tire of Ai
- Given that the hype is overblown I do have reason to feel that the concern for it is also overblown.
Those are my thoughts concerning workflow and why I would have a neutral stance for it, but I will also say that I would be critical of generative Ai use if I can tell that's the only tool being used.
Also, the AI vids Oney has done have been pretty entertaining, however I can't personally see the point in using AI as a 'buddy'. Kind of worries me people are turning to AI as a substitute for actual companionship.
I said it before, I'll say it again.
If people are going to turn to an Ai dating app just so they can jack off to Sakura Haruno or Nami then I say let the Ai suggest to those people to try erotic asphyxiation and let natural selection take it's course.
I find it absurd that a cartoon idea is even becoming reality to have a fucking computer as a girlfriend, but if anyone is to blame it's the Japanese for even having dating sims to begin with.
Response to Is anybody actually using AI in their workflows now? 2025-11-26 23:48:53 (edited 2025-11-26 23:49:41)
To simply answer the title, no.
Heck no, I would actually destroy every AI center I find if I could, just a waste of resources and minerals.
I hate school with all my mind, heart and soul.
I've been asked to implement it in my workflow at my job, I learned as much as I could stomach since I was being paid to do so. Ultimately, as someone that was already competent at my job, it didn't make anything easier or faster, it just crammed a slot machine in the middle of my workflow, a major timesink to get something different than I imagined. It was always the bottleneck, not the "tool" people keep insisting it must be. After my trial period, I told my bosses what I already knew: it's not worth it. Can't make anything that would be made public because everyone would clock it as AI and it would damage the brand, can't use it for internals with clients because it makes promises in preproduction that we can't keep in production. Better to have sketchy and not-so-polished designs that we understand vs something that looks perfectly rendered at a distance but makes no fuckin sense up close.
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