At 8/11/25 07:07 PM, Drazah wrote:Hopefully I can still rip videos without an account or ID, I know some videos can't be ripped if they've been removed/privated, no idea if 18+ videos count since god knows what YT claims is for adults, and never tells you unless you're logged out.

At 8/11/25 07:12 PM, FullOnWave wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:07 PM, Drazah wrote:Hopefully I can still rip videos without an account or ID, I know some videos can't be ripped if they've been removed/privated, no idea if 18+ videos count since god knows what YT claims is for adults, and never tells you unless you're logged out.

Have you used yt-dlp? You don't need an account to download videos, just a link. Way way way more reliable than those youtube to mp4/mp3 sites

At 8/11/25 07:31 PM, Drazah wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:12 PM, FullOnWave wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:07 PM, Drazah wrote:Hopefully I can still rip videos without an account or ID, I know some videos can't be ripped if they've been removed/privated, no idea if 18+ videos count since god knows what YT claims is for adults, and never tells you unless you're logged out.

Have you used yt-dlp? You don't need an account to download videos, just a link. Way way way more reliable than those youtube to mp4/mp3 sites

iirc yt-dip is a command line thing, right? Always looked really complicated.

At 8/11/25 07:07 PM, Drazah wrote:I'll use it for as long as I can, since YT as shit as it is, still has decent content hidden within, and tons of info for more "niche" things in comparison to the slop people usually associate YT with (rightfully).

Hopefully I can still rip videos without an account or ID, I know some videos can't be ripped if they've been removed/privated, no idea if 18+ videos count since god knows what YT claims is for adults, and never tells you unless you're logged out.

At 8/11/25 07:53 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:49 PM, Spaggo wrote:Dont even boycott it just wait to be unable to use it if you tried at this rate

I don't see the harm in taking this as an opportunity to send a clear message and stand up to their BS - rather than not taking a stance until it's personally inconvenient. Besides, lord knows I could use some time away from the idiot box...

At 8/11/25 07:42 PM, FullOnWave wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:31 PM, Drazah wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:12 PM, FullOnWave wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:07 PM, Drazah wrote:Hopefully I can still rip videos without an account or ID, I know some videos can't be ripped if they've been removed/privated, no idea if 18+ videos count since god knows what YT claims is for adults, and never tells you unless you're logged out.

Have you used yt-dlp? You don't need an account to download videos, just a link. Way way way more reliable than those youtube to mp4/mp3 sites

iirc yt-dip is a command line thing, right? Always looked really complicated.

It is but I forgot to mention there's a few graphical interfaces out there. This is the one I use. yt-dlp was like the number one result for me when searching for downloaders. A lot of the other ones I saw had strings attached like download limits or having to pay a fee for downloading higher quality videos

At 8/11/25 08:12 PM, Spaggo wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:53 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:49 PM, Spaggo wrote:Dont even boycott it just wait to be unable to use it if you tried at this rate

I don't see the harm in taking this as an opportunity to send a clear message and stand up to their BS - rather than not taking a stance until it's personally inconvenient. Besides, lord knows I could use some time away from the idiot box...

This was mainly me joking around on little sleep

Though i will say if your legitimately looking to start some kind of boycott the newgrounds forums arent going to cut it. Even it you managed to convince the whole animation forum to get behind this boycott it would still be piss effective. This is a very small and non profitable part of the yt userbase. And youtube is absolutely mahoosive im watching yt right now

At 8/11/25 08:19 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:12 PM, Spaggo wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:53 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:49 PM, Spaggo wrote:Dont even boycott it just wait to be unable to use it if you tried at this rate

I don't see the harm in taking this as an opportunity to send a clear message and stand up to their BS - rather than not taking a stance until it's personally inconvenient. Besides, lord knows I could use some time away from the idiot box...

This was mainly me joking around on little sleep

Though i will say if your legitimately looking to start some kind of boycott the newgrounds forums arent going to cut it. Even it you managed to convince the whole animation forum to get behind this boycott it would still be piss effective. This is a very small and non profitable part of the yt userbase. And youtube is absolutely mahoosive im watching yt right now

That's a very defeatist attitude and I don't agree with it.

Sure this is a small portion of their userbase and likely everyone in this chat will have a negligible impact in the grand scheme but that's not the point. Why bother doing any activism then? Why bother voting? Its about solidarity, doing my part or at least not being part of the problem.

I'm not trying to start a movement on this site, I'm just trying to keep the conversation going.

At 8/11/25 08:28 PM, Spaggo wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:19 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:12 PM, Spaggo wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:53 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 07:49 PM, Spaggo wrote:Dont even boycott it just wait to be unable to use it if you tried at this rate

I don't see the harm in taking this as an opportunity to send a clear message and stand up to their BS - rather than not taking a stance until it's personally inconvenient. Besides, lord knows I could use some time away from the idiot box...

This was mainly me joking around on little sleep

Though i will say if your legitimately looking to start some kind of boycott the newgrounds forums arent going to cut it. Even it you managed to convince the whole animation forum to get behind this boycott it would still be piss effective. This is a very small and non profitable part of the yt userbase. And youtube is absolutely mahoosive im watching yt right now

That's a very defeatist attitude and I don't agree with it.

Sure this is a small portion of their userbase and likely everyone in this chat will have a negligible impact in the grand scheme but that's not the point. Why bother doing any activism then? Why bother voting? Its about solidarity, doing my part or at least not being part of the problem.

I'm not trying to start a movement on this site, I'm just trying to keep the conversation going.

I realise it might have looked like i was trying to get you to give up thats not what i meant. I was saying if you were tryingto start a movement to reach out elsewhere as well as here. Otherwise disregard my ranting and ravings

At 8/11/25 08:40 PM, Golaxi wrote:Boycotting for 1 day won't work though. I assume you may know this but for it to be an actual boycott, it needs to be an indefinite halt of using youtube until they actually change. Or at least use it in a specific way that goes against their AI.

Youtube or rather google is a company that dominates the internet simply because there is no competition. So 1 day without a few people active is nothing to their eyes.

I for one have combated them by removing search history and watch history from my account, since those are elements that the AI will target. Not only that but it confuses the algorithm. I am like a blank slate to them now. After that I simply logged out and have been using youtube without an account. Even going as far as to use it only in incognito mode. Why? You might ask, because it keeps the algorithm from storing any further info to build off of and It might even confuse the AI. It's unlikely though but worth a shot.

Regardless, youtube has been on a downfall for a while now and I have been too addicted to watching it's content when I am faced with boredom. So this is also my chance to reduce my usage of youtube in general and find something else to actually do for once.

It's also the reason that I am on newgrounds now, since I had been searching for alternatives and I can definitely say, this place is quite special and I wish more people would use it/support it.

At 8/11/25 08:52 PM, Brethinfrtsthruapant wrote:As someone who grew up on Youtube, I agree it is time for regime change. However, the masses will ultimately do what is easier. People scan their faces all the time to unlock their phones and don't even consider that it's doing that CONSTANTLY.
Those of us who ultimately respect privacy, have become the minority in this global Orwellian survailence state.
Hopefully the roll out of these measures make it intolerable to use the big 6 platforms. But it'll always be just one more verification, vaccination or act of violence in the name of preserving the legal mafia.

If I'm cooked, let me burn.

At 8/11/25 08:56 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:40 PM, Golaxi wrote:Boycotting for 1 day won't work though. I assume you may know this but for it to be an actual boycott, it needs to be an indefinite halt of using youtube until they actually change. Or at least use it in a specific way that goes against their AI.

Youtube or rather google is a company that dominates the internet simply because there is no competition. So 1 day without a few people active is nothing to their eyes.

I for one have combated them by removing search history and watch history from my account, since those are elements that the AI will target. Not only that but it confuses the algorithm. I am like a blank slate to them now. After that I simply logged out and have been using youtube without an account. Even going as far as to use it only in incognito mode. Why? You might ask, because it keeps the algorithm from storing any further info to build off of and It might even confuse the AI. It's unlikely though but worth a shot.

Regardless, youtube has been on a downfall for a while now and I have been too addicted to watching it's content when I am faced with boredom. So this is also my chance to reduce my usage of youtube in general and find something else to actually do for once.

It's also the reason that I am on newgrounds now, since I had been searching for alternatives and I can definitely say, this place is quite special and I wish more people would use it/support it.

You are 100% right, one day is not enough. It needs to be an ongoing thing until they change.

I have no intentions of using YouTube as a consumer again any time soon (I've got an anime backlog calling my name), though where things get complicated for is trying to build an audience for my animations - and YouTube was a big part of that.

But yes, you raise a good point and I shouldn't compromise what matters for selfish reasons. I will likely have to rethink my business strategy.

At 8/11/25 09:11 PM, nji69 wrote:

At 8/11/25 04:02 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:In opposition, I will be boycotting the entire platform on that day.

Right. Okay. So you're coming back to Youtube the next day. See you then?
This kind of reminds me of when a bunch of Reddit users decided to boycott Reddit by shutting down their subreddits for the span of like, 2 weeks? Two weeks were up, the majority of them came back, and now nobody even remembers there was a Reddit boycott or what it was even about.

Your post on Newgrounds will probably get 20 people at most to boycott Youtube, out of the millions that regularly visit without even thinking about it and would be disturbed to have to change this habit, for a single day. Then, I dunno, you're back on Youtube and you try to avoid doing the ID thing for as long as possible until it bugs you for it on a video you really want to watch, then you just shrug and do it anyways. Then it just becomes natural that Youtube always wanted your ID. How many people actually remember dislikes getting removed nowadays?

The only reason this feature would ever be rolled back is if it was so intrusive and annoying to regular people that they straight up stopped using Youtube over it, similarly to Tumblr's porn ban causing a mass exodus from the site or Windows 8's UI causing people to treat the entire OS as malware and begging Best Buy employees to install 7 instead. This could happen but Google is a fairly smart company and has a pretty good handle on what their users are and aren't willing to put up with. That's how they got away with their search engine lobotimization.

I imagine that this "AI age verification" thing is an excuse to have staged checks. A small amount of Youtube will get cannibalized in the AI check, but it won't be enough for people to immediately kick up a fuss, and they don't want to be left out so they might just give up their IDs, then another chunk, then another until the majority of Youtube is ID verified. If everyone had to do it all at the same time it'd be Google+ all over again. Alternatively, if ID verification is truly that repulsive to the average person (I doubt this, Discord users regularly share their IDs with strangers) they can shitcan the idea early and only bring it back if they're legally mandated to.

Frankly I'd take a more casual approach: just get Freetube and then never bother using Youtube itself for videos again. I can tell Google absolutely despises it when you take this approach because they do their best to try and break it every month.

At 8/11/25 09:21 PM, Golaxi wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:56 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:40 PM, Golaxi wrote:Boycotting for 1 day won't work though. I assume you may know this but for it to be an actual boycott, it needs to be an indefinite halt of using youtube until they actually change. Or at least use it in a specific way that goes against their AI.

Youtube or rather google is a company that dominates the internet simply because there is no competition. So 1 day without a few people active is nothing to their eyes.

I for one have combated them by removing search history and watch history from my account, since those are elements that the AI will target. Not only that but it confuses the algorithm. I am like a blank slate to them now. After that I simply logged out and have been using youtube without an account. Even going as far as to use it only in incognito mode. Why? You might ask, because it keeps the algorithm from storing any further info to build off of and It might even confuse the AI. It's unlikely though but worth a shot.

Regardless, youtube has been on a downfall for a while now and I have been too addicted to watching it's content when I am faced with boredom. So this is also my chance to reduce my usage of youtube in general and find something else to actually do for once.

It's also the reason that I am on newgrounds now, since I had been searching for alternatives and I can definitely say, this place is quite special and I wish more people would use it/support it.

You are 100% right, one day is not enough. It needs to be an ongoing thing until they change.

I have no intentions of using YouTube as a consumer again any time soon (I've got an anime backlog calling my name), though where things get complicated for is trying to build an audience for my animations - and YouTube was a big part of that.

But yes, you raise a good point and I shouldn't compromise what matters for selfish reasons. I will likely have to rethink my business strategy.

That definitely makes it more complicated. Newgrounds and social media is the only ways I could think of for building an audience outside of youtube. I would hope for more people to flock to newgrounds but I think the biggest issue is not that people wouldn't use newgrounds but rather many don't know about it or don't know that it has more than just.. well.. hentai lol.

Damn... Youtube really does have a grasp on many people, especially if youtube is a creators only way of supporting themselves. I am not sure what the right move is here but I don't think you would be selfish to continue using it for your animations if it's necessary but that's also a double edge sword if youtube ever decides you need ID verification...

What we really need is a true competitor to youtube as all the current alternatives have little followings. Not to mention the content on those platforms often gets drowned in political news, which unfortunately deters people from using them.

All we can hope for is change honestly, not just in youtube but in the internet and the world itself.

At 8/11/25 09:37 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 09:21 PM, Golaxi wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:56 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:

At 8/11/25 08:40 PM, Golaxi wrote:Boycotting for 1 day won't work though. I assume you may know this but for it to be an actual boycott, it needs to be an indefinite halt of using youtube until they actually change. Or at least use it in a specific way that goes against their AI.

Youtube or rather google is a company that dominates the internet simply because there is no competition. So 1 day without a few people active is nothing to their eyes.

I for one have combated them by removing search history and watch history from my account, since those are elements that the AI will target. Not only that but it confuses the algorithm. I am like a blank slate to them now. After that I simply logged out and have been using youtube without an account. Even going as far as to use it only in incognito mode. Why? You might ask, because it keeps the algorithm from storing any further info to build off of and It might even confuse the AI. It's unlikely though but worth a shot.

Regardless, youtube has been on a downfall for a while now and I have been too addicted to watching it's content when I am faced with boredom. So this is also my chance to reduce my usage of youtube in general and find something else to actually do for once.

It's also the reason that I am on newgrounds now, since I had been searching for alternatives and I can definitely say, this place is quite special and I wish more people would use it/support it.

You are 100% right, one day is not enough. It needs to be an ongoing thing until they change.

I have no intentions of using YouTube as a consumer again any time soon (I've got an anime backlog calling my name), though where things get complicated for is trying to build an audience for my animations - and YouTube was a big part of that.

But yes, you raise a good point and I shouldn't compromise what matters for selfish reasons. I will likely have to rethink my business strategy.

That definitely makes it more complicated. Newgrounds and social media is the only ways I could think of for building an audience outside of youtube. I would hope for more people to flock to newgrounds but I think the biggest issue is not that people wouldn't use newgrounds but rather many don't know about it or don't know that it has more than just.. well.. hentai lol.

Damn... Youtube really does have a grasp on many people, especially if youtube is a creators only way of supporting themselves. I am not sure what the right move is here but I don't think you would be selfish to continue using it for your animations if it's necessary but that's also a double edge sword if youtube ever decides you need ID verification...

What we really need is a true competitor to youtube as all the current alternatives have little followings. Not to mention the content on those platforms often gets drowned in political news, which unfortunately deters people from using them.

All we can hope for is change honestly, not just in youtube but in the internet and the world itself.

I'm not concerned about getting dinged by the AI myself as my account is pretty old (then again I also look up a lot of stuff on anime so who knows). But yeah double edge sword is right. I just started getting good momentum on my channel and then they pull this shit... I will have to have a serious heart to heart with myself, choosing my principles versus my potential ventures.