At 10/26/25 11:26 AM, TecMysT wrote:Hello! (1st post)
Great topic, would like to contribute a little by gathering/including some informations in single post, some already surfaced here, some may still not be so obvious and planty I probably forgot but I've also provided links to sources that expands those subjects and adds other aspects. Disclaimer: I'll TRY stick to facts.
Lets start with LAION-5B dataset that should be used only for research puprpose yet was put in Stable Diffusion model, at this point it's confirmed those contain illegal materials, including but not limited to: child abuse, rape, executions, animal cruelty…
What needs to be remainded that when those datasets 'acquire' piece of data, it stays there forever.[1, 2] It's practicly impossible to erase information without deleting whoal dataset and no ammount of finetuning will help, even guardrails can be jailbreaked.[3] On top of that with preatty much all the internet scraped (dark web too) 24h/day, there will be a lot more of that and people already had to label those entries and be exposed to gruesome imagery that led to mental problems.[4]
Any adult content that use AI should be completely banned.(sorry not sorry)
The same people that were invested in NFT jumped to crypto and now, you guessed it, AI 'content'. It's like scammers already know what's the next cash grab.
They try to tell anyone that it's new medium similar to camera/photoshop and using crazy logical splits to convince world of their 'truths' even involving disabled people without their approval, just to get rich fast. I just link great video breaking down their mental gymnastics and also showing perspective from an actual disabled artist.[5]
AI images (never art since this term only applies to humans, not chimpanzees, not robots, and by calling it that way you just anthropomorphize computers, which is silly) are based on stolen digital property (money in banks are stored in digital form and still got value) without consent and compensation.
Also AI users are just larping as artists, most of the time they try to hide their AI usage, you know who else hides fake informaions from others? Exactly - scammers.
Want to include background in your work? (or any other thing) Commision artist! No money? Learn from many free tutorials! No time? Use free human made resources! But never, ever use AI slop, even if it's already generated, otherwise you not only showing how little your project means to you but also legitimizing plagiarism machine with your name. ('Why bother to interact with something when even creator doesn't give a shit.')
Same goes to tracing AI slop, overpainting, using as reference or whatever other thing you might think it can 'help' you with. You won't learn or prove anything except how little you care about environment and fellow humans.
One of the biggest and most repeated lies gaslighting artists from the begining: 'AI is just a tool'. It is not a tool in fact it's replacment or as The Showrunner AI admited - 'competitor'[6], simply put, if 'tool' can do something by itself and you have no real control over it, it's no longer a 'tool'.
Endgame for companies is to completely remove human factor and give away all the content creation to algorithms that pray on flawed human psychology to maintain enagment, basically it makes users stupid, even after ceasing to use chats.[7]
Tech bros say AI Agents will be next big thing toward AGI, fallacy since prompt injection can derail AI's 'work' process, it can't distinguish instruction from prompt.[8, 9, 10]
Amount of data to create anything reasembling real thing is staggering. Even biggest studios combined together + public domain, doesn't have enough data to train their own AI without relaying on all of the internet, otherwise they already would.
Not gonna talk about countless lawsuits/copyright claims since it's a broad subject, but for anyone with a pinch of empathy it's blatant theft and data laundering, if you're interested ->.[11]
At first AI in medicine improved finding cancer but new data revealed dark side: doctors who rely on it worsend their own skill in discovering cancerous cells.[12]
Programers felt that they are 20% more efficient with use of AI, yet studies show that in fact task on avarage took them 19% longer.[13]
Politics, yes the very thing no one is interested in but politics takes great interest in those people. AI contribute to rise of fascism just look at news.[14] For totalitarian government artists can be obstacle (with their empathy, remorse, values) but with machine there's no such conundrum, it can produce whatever piece of propaganda they want.[15]
Chats are resposible for Suicide[16], AI Psychosis[17] and 'Digital Necromancy'. (also not gonna dive into this difficult topics but check links or search for more info)
Erotic chatbots emerges… nah fuck that, decide for yourself.[18]
More people are disillusioned with all this AI crap, so trying to find safe haven for human creativity or just space that cultivates human conection, away from all the misinformations[19], deeptfakes, scams, see of slop and dystopian corporations aiming only at their profits by steeling our information, without a single fuck about person in front of the device. Meanwhile CEOs building bunkers with all that money, yeah sure, totally normal behavior when you're preaching how AGI is coming to save humanity and makes 'everyone' life better, totally not a gamble with human lifes...[20]
The more you know about this technology the less likely you want to interact with it.
So yes I wholeheartedly am against using any amount of AI. With few exception that doesn't undermine human labor or rely on stolen data and isn't used for profit, but for that they must be heavily regulated 1st.
Use Glaze/Nightshade despite it's an abuse toward AI companies^^[21]
Unfortunetly I'm not sure how it goes for voice/music but there was something at work.[22]
If you really want to deep dive into this topics, here are some people that years ago predicted and alarmed about all of this and still continue to do so:
Ed Zitron, Ed Newton-Rex, Neil Turkewitz, Reid Southen, Alex J. Champandard and every freaking artist out there that values integrity…
Stay sharp and don't let genAI dull your senses! (-;
I leave you with quote: "AI is the asbestos we are shoveling into the walls of our society and our descendants will be digging it out for generations."[23]
Thanks for reading!
TecMysT
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