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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:17:52

At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Might be a good thing then that i'm usually logged out

I only log in nowadays when i upload videos so i hope they won't bother me with it then if it's coming to my country

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:19:27

At 8/12/25 07:15 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the correction

No problem ;)

At 8/12/25 07:16 PM, xeiavica wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:09 PM, DioShiba wrote:Isn't Duck Duck Go the best alternative to google right now?
I would say possibly yes. I was thinking of startpage and searx (remember those?), when I said DDG just gives you third party results, that actually did just give you google/bing results. DDG appears to be independent, but it needs improvements because it's a grab bag. But most concerning, is how the creators past history involved selling data. We have no proof any wrongdoings, but still, something to raise an eyebrow over.

Well, I use DDG, Startpage, Searx, Ecosia (sometimes) and despite DDG needs some improvements, I still enjoy it a lot plus recently they also added a feature to hide AI-generated images in case I see them flooding the image search result which is a nice addition since I was getting annoyed at seeing AI slops when I searched images for references.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:24:49

At 8/12/25 07:19 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:15 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the correction

No problem ;)
At 8/12/25 07:16 PM, xeiavica wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:09 PM, DioShiba wrote:
Isn't Duck Duck Go the best alternative to google right now?

I would say possibly yes. I was thinking of startpage and searx (remember those?), when I said DDG just gives you third party results, that actually did just give you google/bing results. DDG appears to be independent, but it needs improvements because it's a grab bag. But most concerning, is how the creators past history involved selling data. We have no proof any wrongdoings, but still, something to raise an eyebrow over.

Well, I use DDG, Startpage, Searx, Ecosia (sometimes) and despite DDG needs some improvements, I still enjoy it a lot plus recently they also added a feature to hide AI-generated images in case I see them flooding the image search result which is a nice addition since I was getting annoyed at seeing AI slops when I searched images for references.

I also heard of qwant being good, it's french based and specifically exists to not track your shit. Only problem is that it's not available in alot of places

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:27:55 (edited 2025-08-12 19:29:30)

Before today, I put on some videos on YouTube in full screen and recorded the screens of the videos playing, then saved the recordings in my phone's gallery and my Chromebook's files. At first, I did this only using my phone until noon, when I realised that I could do this for my Chromebook as well.

I did this for a lot of videos, and I figured it would get annoying with the overlapping voices from the videos, so I just set my Bluetooth headphones to my Switch 1 and replayed Bioshock Infinite on max volume.

Before midnight, I logged out of my YouTube account on my phone, but I couldn't do that for my Chromebook; however, I don't plan on visiting YouTube on my Chromebook for a while.

Looking back, I definitely should have started my recordings way earlier; I only started doing this yesterday night.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:34:50

At 8/12/25 07:17 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Might be a good thing then that i'm usually logged out
I only log in nowadays when i upload videos so i hope they won't bother me with it then if it's coming to my country

Mmmhhhh....considering that Google owns Youtube I was reading this article from Google support:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3026993?hl=en&utm_source=chatgpt.com#zippy=%2Cif-youre-in-the-european-union-eu-european-economic-area-eea-switzerland-or-the-united-kingdom%2Cif-youre-in-australia

Quoting:

In line with the Audiovisual Media Services Directive (AVMSD), you may be asked to verify your date of birth to access age-restricted videos. AVMSD covers all audiovisual media, including video sharing platforms.

Follow the prompts to submit an image of a valid ID or credit card. Learn more about how age verification works.

And this is the Google page about ID verification:

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10071085?hl=en#zippy=%2Cuse-an-email-address-for-age-verification%2Cuse-a-credit-card-for-age-verification

The one that will affect US yt might look differently. For creators, if they monetize, AdSense identity verification is mandatory once they hit Google’s verification threshold; miss the 45-day window and their ads can stop. Address PIN verification follows.

More summarized info here (ignore the last part at the very bottom, what matters is understanding what's going on): https://redact.dev/blog/youtube-id-verification-uk-australia-online-safety-age-assurance-2025

EU AVMSD

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:36:06

At 8/12/25 07:24 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:19 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:15 PM, DigitalRusticMedia wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the correction

No problem ;)
At 8/12/25 07:16 PM, xeiavica wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:09 PM, DioShiba wrote:
Isn't Duck Duck Go the best alternative to google right now?

I would say possibly yes. I was thinking of startpage and searx (remember those?), when I said DDG just gives you third party results, that actually did just give you google/bing results. DDG appears to be independent, but it needs improvements because it's a grab bag. But most concerning, is how the creators past history involved selling data. We have no proof any wrongdoings, but still, something to raise an eyebrow over.

Well, I use DDG, Startpage, Searx, Ecosia (sometimes) and despite DDG needs some improvements, I still enjoy it a lot plus recently they also added a feature to hide AI-generated images in case I see them flooding the image search result which is a nice addition since I was getting annoyed at seeing AI slops when I searched images for references.

I also heard of qwant being good, it's french based and specifically exists to not track your shit. Only problem is that it's not available in alot of places

Thank you for this new info. I knew Qwant and I sometimes use it. Thankfully I live in a country where it's available. It's a shame not everyone can enjoy it though.

Dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen- Heinrich Heine

La religione promette, la scienza mantiene- OsaSapere

Flaws are the best: they create anomalies, and anomalies bend into creativity-EmsDeLaRoZ

Origin of the older signature

How to detect AI-generated music (mainly Suno AI and Udio AI)

I believe that there's beauty in giving sadness a voice-ForgottenDawn

We can only say that we’re heading towards the tipping point and that AMOC tipping is possible-René van Westen

Books should be read twice. Once to understand them, and once to think-Libero (Il diritto alla felicità)

Better to have loved and lost than to end up a bitter incel-Piss

Forelimb feathering, soft tissues, and skeleton of the flying dromaeosaurid Microraptor

Stop killing games

During eclipses the light is obscured, but the past is exposed- Fear of Dark

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:38:53

At 8/12/25 07:17 PM, DioShiba wrote:That's true.... Honestly a part of me hopes that Google does face a collapse someday if that wishful thinking ever comes to pass but that's in a very unlikely scenario.

A black swan event would have to occur. They are a behemoth amongst behemoths. The definition of too big to fail. They pretty much ate the dot com bubble.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:40:21

At 8/12/25 07:34 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:17 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Might be a good thing then that i'm usually logged out
I only log in nowadays when i upload videos so i hope they won't bother me with it then if it's coming to my country

Mmmhhhh....considering that Google owns Youtube I was reading this article from Google support:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3026993?hl=en&utm_source=chatgpt.com#zippy=%2Cif-youre-in-the-european-union-eu-european-economic-area-eea-switzerland-or-the-united-kingdom%2Cif-youre-in-australia

Quoting:

And this is the Google page about ID verification:

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10071085?hl=en#zippy=%2Cuse-an-email-address-for-age-verification%2Cuse-a-credit-card-for-age-verification

The one that will affect US yt might look differently. For creators, if they monetize, AdSense identity verification is mandatory once they hit Google’s verification threshold; miss the 45-day window and their ads can stop. Address PIN verification follows.

More summarized info here (ignore the last part at the very bottom, what matters is understanding what's going on): https://redact.dev/blog/youtube-id-verification-uk-australia-online-safety-age-assurance-2025

EU AVMSD

In the EU you've indeed for a while needed to do that to access age-restricted videos, but it's been purely that far as im aware. No like ai stuff trying to detect what age you are and placing restrictions other than not being able to watch age-restricted stuff

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:47:22 (edited 2025-08-12 19:47:47)

At 8/12/25 07:40 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:34 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:17 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:14 PM, ShangXian wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:02 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:Is this only in the US or am i fucked too

Youtube will to roll out an all-new AI-based age verification system in the United States on Wednesday, August 13. Initially, the tests will be conducted on a small amount of YouTube’s audience in the US. It will eventually become more pervasive when the concept starts working at par with how it performs in other cities around the world.
The new system will only remain effective when the viewers are logged into their accounts on YouTube. It will assess viewers' age regardless of their date of birth, which people enter at the time of sign up.

Might be a good thing then that i'm usually logged out
I only log in nowadays when i upload videos so i hope they won't bother me with it then if it's coming to my country

Mmmhhhh....considering that Google owns Youtube I was reading this article from Google support:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3026993?hl=en&utm_source=chatgpt.com#zippy=%2Cif-youre-in-the-european-union-eu-european-economic-area-eea-switzerland-or-the-united-kingdom%2Cif-youre-in-australia

Quoting:

And this is the Google page about ID verification:

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10071085?hl=en#zippy=%2Cuse-an-email-address-for-age-verification%2Cuse-a-credit-card-for-age-verification

The one that will affect US yt might look differently. For creators, if they monetize, AdSense identity verification is mandatory once they hit Google’s verification threshold; miss the 45-day window and their ads can stop. Address PIN verification follows.

More summarized info here (ignore the last part at the very bottom, what matters is understanding what's going on): https://redact.dev/blog/youtube-id-verification-uk-australia-online-safety-age-assurance-2025

EU AVMSD

In the EU you've indeed for a while needed to do that to access age-restricted videos, but it's been purely that far as im aware. No like ai stuff trying to detect what age you are and placing restrictions other than not being able to watch age-restricted stuff

Yeah, despite I fear EU might violate some aspects of GDPR, I'm still very glad to live here because of tightened laws that protect my privacy. Still a lot to do frankly but better than US and UK.

Interestingly I've just literally now found this:

https://brusselssignal.eu/2025/08/stop-killing-privacy-eu-citizens-to-launch-campaign-against-intrusive-online-eu-age-verification-checks/

I have to check more in depth about this, because in case I will update about it in the next days and I totally support it!

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Flaws are the best: they create anomalies, and anomalies bend into creativity-EmsDeLaRoZ

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How to detect AI-generated music (mainly Suno AI and Udio AI)

I believe that there's beauty in giving sadness a voice-ForgottenDawn

We can only say that we’re heading towards the tipping point and that AMOC tipping is possible-René van Westen

Books should be read twice. Once to understand them, and once to think-Libero (Il diritto alla felicità)

Better to have loved and lost than to end up a bitter incel-Piss

Forelimb feathering, soft tissues, and skeleton of the flying dromaeosaurid Microraptor

Stop killing games

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:49:31 (edited 2025-08-12 19:50:06)

At 8/12/25 07:40 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:In the EU you've indeed for a while needed to do that to access age-restricted videos, but it's been purely that far as im aware. No like ai stuff trying to detect what age you are and placing restrictions other than not being able to watch age-restricted stuff

it's because americans aren't too keen on the gov trying to herd us. Comparatively to you fine people at least which is why it seems so silly to you(assuming).

This is a hat trick. Nothing more nothing less. It's a get around for us to sell more of our freedoms willingly. The government has already been caught/admitted to be strong arming social media platforms on their censorship and narrative driving.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:53:27

At 8/12/25 07:49 PM, ShadeBotT-900 wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:40 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:In the EU you've indeed for a while needed to do that to access age-restricted videos, but it's been purely that far as im aware. No like ai stuff trying to detect what age you are and placing restrictions other than not being able to watch age-restricted stuff

it's because americans aren't too keen on the gov trying to herd us. Comparatively to you fine people at least which is why it seems so silly to you(assuming).
This is a hat trick. Nothing more nothing less. It's a get around for us to sell more of our freedoms willingly. The government has already been caught/admitted to be strong arming social media platforms on their censorship and narrative driving.

Ultimately until the PATRIOT Act is determined to be unconstitutional I doubt much is going to change concerning some of the concerns that Americans have with social media companies trying to take control.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:54:39 (edited 2025-08-12 19:54:53)

At 8/12/25 07:24 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:I also heard of qwant being good, it's french based and specifically exists to not track your shit. Only problem is that it's not available in alot of places

Very odd map. I'm curious why china uses it.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 19:59:12

Well ain't Youtube being Dumbasses then? Like if i watch ONE fucking spongebob episode from 2004 the ai is goona be like "Woah a 2 year old better give him fucking EDUCATION" Like how am I gonna listen to my fucking Music on Youtube?

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:01:21

At 8/12/25 07:54 PM, ShadeBotT-900 wrote:
At 8/12/25 07:24 PM, EpiqueCrimson wrote:I also heard of qwant being good, it's french based and specifically exists to not track your shit. Only problem is that it's not available in alot of places

Very odd map. I'm curious why china uses it.

Reading from this and using Google translate as I forgot most of French after middle school:

Qwant announces that its use will no longer be possible in certain countries. In this case, you will need to use a VPN to use the search engine.

A rather surprising end to the year for Qwant. In a message posted on Twitter on December 16, the company announced that it would no longer provide access to its services in certain countries—no list of affected states was provided. The company stated that it made this decision after realizing that it was unable to provide a sufficient level of service quality in these countries.

https://twitter.com/QwantCom/status/1339149434572206080

"Some of you have reported difficulties using Qwant in several countries around the world. This is a difficult decision, but we have decided to close access to our services in certain countries where we do not believe we can provide the expected quality of service. We apologize for this," wrote the group's corporate announcements account.

Contacted for details on the list of affected countries, Qwant explained to Numerama that this is simply a continuation of its policy of refocusing on its core business, namely online search, but primarily at a European level. The company wishes to limit its geographical and service-related dispersion by streamlining its activities and online presence.

Qwant does not plan to release the list of countries affected by this closure. That being said, it appears that it is not European countries that are affected, but rather rather distant nations. The group believes that this will have no concrete impact on its daily operations—its activities there were, in practice, anecdotal—and that this demonstrates, above all, its pragmatism.

Rather than expanding the number of countries in which it operates, Qwant now prefers to focus on a more modest number of countries, but ones where its technical performance will be recognized and its service appreciated. Europe is a priority in this regard, as it is where the majority of its public, its staff, and its immediate future are located. This refocusing must also serve to remobilize resources elsewhere.

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Flaws are the best: they create anomalies, and anomalies bend into creativity-EmsDeLaRoZ

Origin of the older signature

How to detect AI-generated music (mainly Suno AI and Udio AI)

I believe that there's beauty in giving sadness a voice-ForgottenDawn

We can only say that we’re heading towards the tipping point and that AMOC tipping is possible-René van Westen

Books should be read twice. Once to understand them, and once to think-Libero (Il diritto alla felicità)

Better to have loved and lost than to end up a bitter incel-Piss

Forelimb feathering, soft tissues, and skeleton of the flying dromaeosaurid Microraptor

Stop killing games

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:02:29 (edited 2025-08-12 20:04:57)

At 8/12/25 07:53 PM, DioShiba wrote:Ultimately until the PATRIOT Act is determined to be unconstitutional I doubt much is going to change concerning some of the concerns that Americans have with social media companies trying to take control.

that was in living memory and the most recent just before the information age REALLY kicked off. Because of that mere fact i have a bit of faith. The newer generations are immune to the media narrative. Good. the times are aligning correctly.

Our constitution has been treated as a suggestion ever since the Louisiana purchase sad to say. Some American history buff out there wiser than me on the subject probably knows of something prior to that.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:03:21

At 8/12/25 07:59 PM, WeegeeMan1 wrote:Well ain't Youtube being Dumbasses then? Like if i watch ONE fucking spongebob episode from 2004 the ai is goona be like "Woah a 2 year old better give him fucking EDUCATION" Like how am I gonna listen to my fucking Music on Youtube?

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:03:35 (edited 2025-08-12 20:07:56)

At 8/12/25 06:02 PM, xeiavica wrote:I agree with you, despite your internet tough guy attitude. But alas, I cannot delete my google because it's mandatory for using android. You literally cannot avoid google in some circumstances unless you use a browser that doesn't have images, css, or JavaScript support. And raw HTML4 won't get you very far.

Huh, work gave me an android phone with a custom OS called 'graphene'. I always thought there was some trick to degoogling it - but yeah, smartphones aren't my area of expertise.

EDIT: Found it.

https://grapheneos.org/

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:05:52

At 8/12/25 07:59 PM, WeegeeMan1 wrote:Well ain't Youtube being Dumbasses then? Like if i watch ONE fucking spongebob episode from 2004 the ai is goona be like "Woah a 2 year old better give him fucking EDUCATION" Like how am I gonna listen to my fucking Music on Youtube?

This also proves how deeply biased AIs can be, because they infer a user is a minor only because they watch cartoon/anime/memes featuring animated characters, gaming, k-pop and other stuff deemed as "only kids do this" and this stems from the very boomer*-like mind attitude that games/animated shows are only for kids. These AIs are done by narrow-minded adults who want to control others.

*I'm using boomer here as synonym of someone with an old mentality not in the demographic meaning, even when Socrates condemned written texts over oral tradition to transmit knowledge I label him "boomer" despite I highly admire him as philosopher.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:06:45

At 8/12/25 08:03 PM, Yomuchan wrote:
At 8/12/25 06:02 PM, xeiavica wrote:I agree with you, despite your internet tough guy attitude. But alas, I cannot delete my google because it's mandatory for using android. You literally cannot avoid google in some circumstances unless you use a browser that doesn't have images, css, or JavaScript support. And raw HTML4 won't get you very far.

Huh, work gave me an android phone with a custom OS called 'graphene'. I always thought there was some trick to degoogling it - but yeah, smartphones aren't my area of expertise.

If I recall, graphene is already degoogled. It was probably given to you by your boss because they would have control over updates and the like.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:08:22

At 8/12/25 08:01 PM, ShangXian wrote:Reading from this and using Google translate as I forgot most of French after middle school:

Yeah either china's on that list or yugoslavia is.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:14:00 (edited 2025-08-12 20:19:51)

im boycotting too. in fact i see this as an amazing opportunity to start creating and posting art rather than just consuming it half hazardly without giving it much of a thought. nice to know that youtube is stopping outube addiction by shooting itself in the foot though!

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:21:24

At 8/12/25 08:14 PM, MetallicPanic wrote:im boycotting too. in fact i see this as an amazing opportunity to start creating and posting art rather than just consuming it half hazardly without giving it much of a thought. nice o know that youtube is stopping outube addiction by shooting itself in the foot though!

I wouldn't take it too hard on yourself when it comes to consuming. Inspiration, I don't know if it's something that can be chased, and if it were, I doubt we'd ever catch that dragon's tail.

It's better off finding.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:27:08

At 8/12/25 08:06 PM, xeiavica wrote:If I recall, graphene is already degoogled. It was probably given to you by your boss because they would have control over updates and the like.

It does what it's supposed to do without any kind of google stuff, yeah. Phone, calendar/scheduling, notes, video call, and a 'open this program to set off an alert' button, used for medical emergencies. That, and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it ran despite being several years "out of date" (its a 2019 model).

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:29:14

Already planning on partaking in this boycott. Sucks that his is happening but lowkey youtube NEEDS some competition, and maybe this just might be the right opportunity for a newer- better platform to flourish.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:30:30

At 8/12/25 08:21 PM, ShadeBotT-900 wrote:
At 8/12/25 08:14 PM, MetallicPanic wrote:im boycotting too. in fact i see this as an amazing opportunity to start creating and posting art rather than just consuming it half hazardly without giving it much of a thought. nice o know that youtube is stopping outube addiction by shooting itself in the foot though!

I wouldn't take it too hard on yourself when it comes to consuming. Inspiration, I don't know if it's something that can be chased, and if it were, I doubt we'd ever catch that dragon's tail.
It's better off finding.

i mean i agree. but most online media these days are pretty hard wired to keep your attention regardless of whether or not its good. i'd like to prioritize consuming media that actually makes you think, and sadly as of late, youtube hasnt been doing it for me personally, i dont blame the content creators trying to make a living anyway they can, but the site encouraging it, not to mention all the dogshit practices youtube as a company has been doing as of late, im just done giving the site my time and energy. especially when at one point it was my favourite site.

i personally have so many unfinished movies and shows to watch, unread books, unfinished drawings. and i think its time to finish them. many people do too.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:37:27 (edited 2025-08-12 20:37:56)

At 8/12/25 08:30 PM, MetallicPanic wrote:

Yeah, the algorithm is just bad on purpose, it was brilliant before the adpoc. These days, i either see something posted within the prev 6-12mo or YEARS ago. 5-10yrs ago, something with high view count.

it makes me miss those days when the algorithm would feed me random crap based off my interests with only a couple hundred views

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:43:28

So far I've been doing so good, but I can't help but worry about how I'll be able to enjoy the content from YouTube without having to resort to downloading. My biggest problem is where do I even go for stuff like YouTube Poops or even video game reviews once the boycott is on? Hell, I even wonder if whether or not this has a geniune effect on YouTube. How long do we have to go on just to thwart AI being used to determine if you're a child or not? It's honestly worryingly.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:51:38

At 8/12/25 08:37 PM, ShadeBotT-900 wrote:
At 8/12/25 08:30 PM, MetallicPanic wrote:

Yeah, the algorithm is just bad on purpose, it was brilliant before the adpoc. These days, i either see something posted within the prev 6-12mo or YEARS ago. 5-10yrs ago, something with high view count.

it makes me miss those days when the algorithm would feed me random crap based off my interests with only a couple hundred views

i feel like a lot of youtube's downward spiral can be traced back to adpoc. but it kinda feels similar with like a LOT of sites in general. youtube was the only one i used. for the sole reason that sites like twitter and tiktok felt like dumping your brain in a vat of acid with hoe addictive they were. and even that eventually became addictive. all bright thumbnails and loud repetitive video narrations and the ads. my god the ads. youtube on tv is unwatchable. like completely. you need adblock to survive the constant flood of minute long unskippable ads that reappear every 2 minutes. occasionally you did find those rare authentic videos made with passion rather than an attempt to get the bag. but i dont wanna dive through the sludge to find it anymore.

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 20:59:26

At 8/12/25 08:43 PM, SebTheMagician wrote:So far I've been doing so good, but I can't help but worry about how I'll be able to enjoy the content from YouTube without having to resort to downloading. My biggest problem is where do I even go for stuff like YouTube Poops or even video game reviews once the boycott is on? Hell, I even wonder if whether or not this has a geniune effect on YouTube. How long do we have to go on just to thwart AI being used to determine if you're a child or not? It's honestly worryingly.

for video game reviews, you might find blogposts about them. for youtube poops, maybe the internet archive. not the best alternatives i know, but the internets a big place. it may not be the same but there ARE alternatives out there. wishing you the best of luck

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Response to BOYCOTT YouTube 2025-08-12 21:15:04

I can't imagine any other website to watch content outside of YouTube, none even come close =/

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